12:55 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Hi
12:56 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> If you have questions/comments for the presenter and want me to read it out, please state your name/affiliation and I'll go to the mic when questions are called for. Please note that all chat transcripts will be archived and made available to the public on https://ripe71.ripe.net/
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12:57 < ripe963> Hi, is live streaming working? I'm located in Switzerland and have tried from laptop browser, vlc and iphone stream from phone but nothing works. Thnx in advance!!
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13:00 < dnshane> Session just starting now. 🙂
13:00 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Afternoon plenary is starting.
13:01 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> First presentation/panel discussion: The Internet as a Field of Modern War: The Applicability of International Humanitarian Law to Cyber Warfare Lucy Turner, Leiden University
13:02 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> If you have questions/comments for the presenter and want me to read it out, please state your name/affiliation and I'll go to the mic when questions are called for. Please note that all chat transcripts will be archived and made available to the public on https://ripe71.ripe.net/
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13:07 < dnshane> Hard to hear.... :'(
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13:07 < brian-1213> Better now?
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13:08 < dnshane> The microphone is pointing at the speaker's shoulder. 😛
13:09 < dnshane> Surely this distinction of "dual-purpose" applies to almost all infrastructure though?
13:09 < dnshane> Roads, water, electricity, etc.
13:09 < brian-1213> dnshane: That sounds like an excellent question to ask. :p
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13:10 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> dnshane, do you want me to ask that question at the mike?
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13:11 < dnshane> No, it's fine. I'm not shy. Waiting to see if the point is addressed by the speaker(s).
13:11 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> dnshane: ok.
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13:18 < dnshane> Suddenly this talk reminds me of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Taste_of_Armageddon
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13:21 < justa> About the 'leaving installations available for the civilians after attacking the military', please review the content of https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6463_-_en_-_saal_6_-_201412291245_-_damn_vulnerable_chemical_process_-_marmusha#video
13:22 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Presenters are asking for questions comments now.
13:22 < justa> It's explicitly about using (cyber) attacks on installations, chemical processes, etc, in such a way as to be non-visible (covert) and yet render installations entirely non-functional or even destroying them to the point of explosions/etc.
13:22 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Please introduce yourself
13:23 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> if you want me to relay the question
13:24 < justa> Arnd Marijnissen - A dutch hackerspace.
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13:28 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> The question line is cut now, I will not be taking any questions from the chat about this presentation.
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13:36 < g949uwf8j40vff> former cyber warfare soldier here. thanks for bringing this topic to the ripe community, which i think is the most affected one by this. international treaties are, IMHO, the only thing that can help bring this type of warfare down to an acceptable level. most actors are currently states (western world) and non-states (countries in chaos, terrorist
13:36 < g949uwf8j40vff> groups). the most powerful actors can IMHO be slowed down by international treaties
13:36 < g949uwf8j40vff> byw
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13:36 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Next panel: Update on IANA Stewardship Transition RIPE CRISP Team Representatives
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13:37 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Chris Buckridge, RIPE NCC is the moderator
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13:46 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Now: Update from Nurani Nimpuno, from Netnod
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14:00 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Now: Update from Athina Fragkouli, RIPE NCC
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14:01 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> the stream is still cutting off, any news from the it crew?
14:03 < dnshane> The animation seems broken on these last two presentations. Nothing is jiggling or spinning or exploding in joy...
14:03 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> :))
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14:05 < mschepers> Hi ElvisVelea-V4Escrow
14:05 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> hey 🙂
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14:06 < mschepers> any remote viewers with a similar issue as reported by ElvisVelea-V4Escrow ?
14:06 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> it just stopped working
14:06 < mschepers> I've not heard any reports yet, but maybe people remain quiet about it
14:06 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> I have the playback on vlc on repeat all
14:07 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> so, when it stops working, it takes like 5-10 seconds to restart
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14:07 < mschepers> we can move to a private chat and discuss some options
14:07 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> sure 🙂
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14:12 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Presentations are finished. Comments or questions?
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14:14 < CarlosM> go Randy !
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14:23 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> we can barely hear daniel, can that mic be louder?
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14:24 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> thanks
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14:28 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> comment from me: while I appreciate the whole work done by crisp and the rest of the communities, I am wondering whether while waiting for the names community if crisp could have a look at the RIPE NCC's separation of operational vs policy documentation. I am a bit concerned seeing the changes that are being made without any appropiate feedback to the community or members to the documents and procedures related to NCC operations
14:28 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> . I am talking about docs like ripe-640 (more specifically - procedures related to mergers)
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14:29 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Elvis, do you want me to read out your comment?
14:29 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> yes, please
14:30 < rhe-786> Elvis -- out of curiosity, why is that a role for CRISP?
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14:30 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> they were talking about that in the first few slides
14:31 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> that one of the goals is to prove to the NTIS that there is a clear separation between policy and procedures
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14:31 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Elvis, I will try - but the line might get cut before it's your turn, sorry
14:32 < job> just push to the front of the line
14:32 < amanda_ncc> There are six people waiting at the mics now
14:32 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> 🙂
14:32 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> they should announce it when they cut the mic 🙂
14:32 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> they haven't yet, so I hope that all the 6 people get to talk 😉
14:33 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> (so sorry I could not be there in person)
14:35 < amanda_ncc> Your question came when five people were ahead of you, the questions are very long.
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14:36 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> I think the moderator closed the mic lines a few minutes after I have asked my question
14:37 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> so, I am hoping it gets asked
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14:38 < amanda_ncc> Yes, but they also said they only had five more minutes ten minutes ago.
14:40 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> it also took me quite a few minutes to type all that 🙂
14:40 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> anyway, if it can't be asked, it's fine
14:41 < Azi-47720> has the RTSP stream no video or is it just me?
14:42 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> Azi-47720, I got this link from menno and it works way better than the RTSP and RTMP
14:42 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> see: http://webcast.ripe.net:1935/live/ripe/playlist.m3u8
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14:44 < Azi-47720> yes that works, thanks
14:44 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> The session is now closed.
14:44 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> Except....
14:45 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> TEH CAKE!!!!
14:45 < Vesna-RIPE_NCC> THE CAKE 60 60 60
14:45 < GPF> 🙂
14:45 < GPF> Happy Birthday Nigel
14:45 < GPF> haha thanks
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14:46 < job> I would like the address policy group to work out how we should divide the cake in a fair and needs-based way
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14:46 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> happy birthday Nigel! 🙂
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14:46 < masterF00> Now i am hungry for cake, great job ... *roar*
14:46 < amd2-ripe> mmm.. cake
14:47 < Azi-47720> job: everyone gets one slice and one slice only
14:47 < Azi-47720> last cake policy
14:47 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> noooo, not that topic again
14:47 < ElvisVelea-V4Escrow> let's talk about what flavour it is, not how it should be divided
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14:52 < BrettC> Good Afternoon Bucharest 🙂
